On Apr 19, 6:27 am, Russell Standish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 06:48:06PM -0000, Jason wrote:
> > With ASSA/RSSA there is the assumption that there is a sampling, that
> > of all observers (or observer moments) one is selected and
> > experienced. Consider momentarily, that no sampling was taking
> > place? Is this view consistent and valid?
> > Note that by "no sampling" I mean no discrimination. Instead of one
> > oberserver or observer-moment being chosen, all are chosen and all are
> > experienced. In this regard the pronoun "you" becomes meaningless, it
> > could be said that all perspectives are experienced by a single mind.
> > When a person is born an observer is not created, rather the universe
> > gains a new perspective upon itself. The same is true in all the
> > paradoxes of duplication/copying of observers. Instead of there being
> > a 50% chance of experiencing Washington or Moscow there is a 100%
> > chance the universe perceives both viewpoints.
> I'm not really sure what you mean by "no sampling". The sampling
> refers to experiencing one OM selected from a set of multiple OMs. The
> only way for this not to occur is for there to actually be only one OM
> to select, or for all OMs to be experienced simultaneously. I would
> argue that both of these cases contradict experience. I would even go
> out on a limb and suggest that consciousness would be impossible if it
> were not possible to experience different OM's sequentially, ie to be
> able to form bits.
> Of course all OMs are experienced, (that is by definition) but not all
> OMs are experienced simultaneously by a given experiencer. That is
> what sampling means.
What if you were simultaneously experiencing every OM? Would any
individual OM be able to tell? OM's isolated by different brains are
non-interacting, so any single OM won't have memories from another.
Consider two brains being simulated by a single computer, each as
different processes. The computer instantiates two conscious
observers at once, but neither observer remembers being the other
because protected memory insures one program can't access the other's
memory. The same is true for our universe where physics is the single
computer realizing all observer moments, but our individual brains act
as protected memory creating the illusion of multiple minds. As Bruno
says, future OM's follow from consistent computations implementing an
observer; so what if multiple observers are part of a single program,
as would be the case if this universe is computable? Does the
"program" of this universe not realize all perspectives
simultaneously? In a sense, a single mind approach follows from there
being a single objective reality, the appearance of multiple minds
comes from the segmentation of memory. Memory maintains the illusion
of personal identity.
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