Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
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> On 07/06/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
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>     Evolution doesn't care about the survival of individual organisms
>     directly, the actual goal of evolution is only to maximize
>     reproductive fitness.
> 
>     If you want to eat a peice of chocolate cake, evolution explains why
>     you like the taste, but your goals are not evolutions goals.  You
>     (Stathis) want to the cake because it tastes nice - *your* goal is to
>     experience the nice taste.  Evolution's goal (maximize reproductive
>     fitness) is quite different.   Our (human) goals are not evolution's
>     goals.
> 
> 
> That's right, but we can see through evolution's tricks with the 
> chocolate cake and perhaps agree that it would be best not to eat it. 
> This involves reasoning about subgoals in view of the top level goal, 
> something that probably only humans among the animals are capable of 
> doing. However, the top level goal is not something that we generally 
> want to change, no matter how insightful and intelligent we are. And I 
> do think that this top level goal must have been programmed into us 
> directly as fear of death, because it does not arise logically from the 
> desire to avoid painful and anxiety-provoking situations, which is how 
> fear of death is indirectly coded in animals.
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> 
> -- 
> Stathis Papaioannou

The top level goal implied by evolution would be to have as many children as 
you can raise through puberty.  Avoiding death should only be a subgoal.

Brent Meeker

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