On 28/11/2008, at 3:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> I have just finished the explanation of an argument > (the movie graph argument, MGA) showing that Mechanism (the idea that > I am machine) is incompatible with Materialism, the idea that there is > some primitive stuffy universe from which consciousness would have > emerged. This was an explanation of a last step in a longer proof, the > Universal Dovetailer Argument, which shows that if we assume > mechanism, eventually Physics is a branch of Machine's psychology, or > better perhaps, machine's "theology", or less provocatively: machine's > computer science Dear Bruno for years now I have been trying to grasp this idea. I am an intuitive - a composer, an aesthete. The only thing that makes sense to my intuition is the beautiful. I believe that there is religious knowledge, scientific knowledge, mathematical knowledge AND artistgic (ie aesthetical knowledge.) You MUST try to make this idea accesible to somebody like me. I believe you can do it. I have enormous faith in your powers of expositiion. I believe I am very close to understanding it - grokking it - feeling it dans mes couilles si tu me pige mon pote I think this idea is so momentous that I actually wish to compose a piece of music - possibly a symphony - which seeks to represent this idea in music. Et pourquoi pas? Most of the great composers attempted to represent the TRANSCENDENTAL in music. I believe you, more than any human whose mind I have frotté (grazed? Rubbed against?) has a representation of ultimate things. The mind of the MUSICAL CREATIVE LOGICIAN desires to know this. Pense Bach - Beethoven, even Boulez (who will never be popular.) But they had to have a leading idea - une idee fixe, sit tu veux - qui les amenait a une representation interieure des choses dite fondementale, voire primitives .... How is it - dans les termes comprehensibles a un gamin comme moi - that because I am a machine, SANS des MATHEMATIQUES, there is no substratum of primitive physical materiality? If you can explain this dans des termes simples pour une fois je te serais infiniment reconnaisant amities, Kim --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
