On 02 Dec 2008, at 22:24, Brent Meeker wrote:
>> >> .... >> Alice's brain and body are "just" local stable artifacts belonging to >> our (most probable) computational history, and making possible for >> Alice consciousness to differentiate through interactions with us, >> relatively to us. >> >> Bruno > > OK, that clarifies things and it corresponds with my intuition that > consciousness is relative to an environment. I can't seem to answer > the > question is MG-Alice conscious "yes" or "no", but I can say she is > conscious > within the movie environment, but not within our environment. This > is similar > to Stathis asking about consciousness within a rock. We could say > the thermal > motions of atoms within the rock may compute consciousness, but it > is a > consciousness within the rock environment, not in ours. Your consciousness is related to all computations going through your (current) brain states. I have not find any reason to think that a rock implement some consciousness, but if this is the case you have to take it into account for the general measure, given that in this case the UD will generate the rock computations too. Now, I don't think there is any consciousness in the movie, even it is generated in the UD. There is just no computation or relevant "physical" causality linkable to a computation in a movie. So consciousness can never be ascribed to anything physical, and thus we have reduce the mind body problem into the comp body problem; how does the appearance of matter emerge from the (immaterial) execution of the platonic deployment. Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
