On 02 Dec 2008, at 22:24, Brent Meeker wrote:

>> ....
>> Alice's brain and body are "just" local stable artifacts belonging to
>> our (most probable) computational history, and making possible for
>> Alice consciousness to differentiate through interactions with us,
>> relatively to us.
>> Bruno
> OK, that clarifies things and it corresponds with my intuition that
> consciousness is relative to an environment.  I can't seem to answer  
> the
> question is MG-Alice conscious "yes" or "no", but I can say she is  
> conscious
> within the movie environment, but not within our environment.  This  
> is similar
> to Stathis asking about consciousness within a rock.  We could say  
> the thermal
> motions of atoms within the rock may compute consciousness, but it  
> is a
> consciousness within the rock environment, not in ours.

Your consciousness is related to all computations going through your  
(current) brain states. I have not find any reason to think that a  
rock implement some consciousness, but if this is the case you have to  
take it into account for the general measure, given that in this case  
the UD will generate the rock computations too.
Now, I don't think there is any consciousness in the movie, even it is  
generated in the UD. There is just no computation or relevant  
"physical" causality linkable to a computation in a movie.
So consciousness can never be ascribed to anything physical, and thus  
we have reduce the mind body problem into the comp body problem; how  
does the appearance of matter emerge from the (immaterial) execution  
of the platonic deployment.



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