Hi Quentin,
> I was thinking about the movie graph and its conclusions. It > concludes that it is absurd for the connsciousness to supervene on > the movie hence physical supervenience is false. OK. It is a reductio ad absurdo. It assumes that consciousness supervenes on the physical activity of a brain (Phys. Sup.), it shows that it leads to the fact that consciousness suoervenes on a movie "qua computatio", and this is considered as an absurdity, and so it concludes that Phys. Sup is false. > > > But if I simulate the graph with a program, and having for exemple > each gates represented by a function like "out = f(in)" each > functions of the simulated graph is in a library which is loaded > dynamically. I can record a run and then on new run I can > selectively replace each libraries/functions by another one with the > same function contract but which instead of computing the out value, > it takes the value from the record. I can do it like in the movie > graph for each gates/functions. > > Then it seems that means in the end the consciousness has to > supervene on the record... Why? Consciousness supervenes on the computation(s), not on his physical implementation, be it with record or with the original modules. > then it is the same conclusion than for physical supervenience. What > is wrong ? The physical supervenience. Consciousness does not supervene on any implementation "in particular" of a computation. It supervenes on all (immaterial) computations going through the (relevant) states. This is in Platonia. Tell me if I miss something, but it seems to me there is no problem here. It is just, again, a problem if you believe in some physical supervenience. Best, Bruno > > > Regards, > Quentin > > -- > All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---