On Apr 16, 4:02 am, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> On 16 Apr 2010, at 05:01, rexallen...@gmail.com wrote:
> > What would make universes with honest initial conditions + causal laws
> > more probable than deceptive ones?  For every honest universe it would
> > seem possible to have an infinite number of deceptive universes that
> > are the equivalent of "The Matrix" - they give rise to conscious
> > entities who have convincing but incorrect beliefs about how their
> > universe really is.  These entities' beliefs are based on perceptions
> > that are only illusions, or simulations (naturally occurring or
> > intelligently designed), or hallucinations, or dreams.
> > It seems to me that it would be a bit of a miracle if it turned out
> > that we lived in a universe whose initial state and causal laws were
> > such that they gave rise to conscious entities whose beliefs about
> > their universe were true beliefs.
> That is the whole problem. The revenge of Descartes Malin génie.
> But the UDA shows that the honest universe, below our substitution  
> level is a sum on all the fiction, and that sums is unique, if  
> defined. The logic of self-reference shows at least that the measure 1  
> is well defined and obeys no classical, quantum-like, logic.

I agree in theory, though I still hold to my "consciousness is
fundamental and uncaused" mantra!

Sometimes it seems as though I can interpret what you say as being
compatible with that view, and sometimes not.

Maybe we're looking at two sides of the same coin...but maybe we're

> PS I do have some serious Mail problem yesterderday, so in absence of  
> answer, it means that I did not get your mail. Sorry.

All is well!

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