On 22 Sep, 17:20, Rex Allen <rexallen31...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:14 AM, 1Z <peterdjo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On 21 Sep, 18:10, Rex Allen <rexallen31...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> What is the significance of intelligence in a universe with
> >> deterministic laws?
> >> Your performance on any IQ test is not due to your possessing some
> >> property called "intelligence", but rather is an inevitable outcome of
> >> the universe's initial conditions and governing causal laws.
> > it is of course both
> I guess I'd have to hear your definition of "property" to make any
> sense of that. In what sense is it like the properties of charge,
> mass, spin, or color?
it's a distinguishing characteristic
that is detectable
> And in what sense is it different?
it's not physically basic
> >> Solving a problem correctly is no more impressive or significant than
> >> rain falling "correctly". You answer the question in the only way the
> >> deterministic laws allow. The rain falls in the only way that the
> >> deterministic laws allow.
> > so your actual conclusion is not that intelligence isn't
> > intelligence, but that intelligence isn't an achivement
> No, my actual conclusion is the part where I conclude:
> "The word 'intelligence' doesn't refer to anything except the
> experiential requirements that the universe places on you as a
> consequence of its causal structure."
I have no idea what that means
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