On Aug 24, 3:08 am, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Funny that you picked spiders as an example of organisms that don't
> > build a world of their own. Spiders build webs. Beavers build dams.
> > Coral builds reefs. What do transistors build when left to their own
> > devices? It's not a non sequiur - that's a false accusation. Nothing
> > that a transistor does or any group of transistors regardless of how
> > many or in how sophisticated of an array has ever resulted in anything
> > like a transistor altering it's physical or logical environment for
> > it's own reasons. A transistor will not figure ever out anything new
> > about itself or it's universe. Neurons routinely do that.
>
> Brains have reasons programmed into them by evolution. Occasionally
> they do things with no survival value, like try to kill themselves. An
> AI would be programmed to learn, to have goals, and perhaps to modify
> its goals - although that might be dangerous for us.

You're giving evolution an active role. Evolution can't program
anything. It's the agents themselves which embody characteristics
which happen to be selected for. Evolution cannot program a stone to
feel pain. How does that answer the question of why transistors don't
build ever anything on their own accord?

Craig

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