On Aug 29, 2011, at 12:00 AM, "Stephen P. King" <stephe...@charter.net> wrote:

On 8/28/2011 11:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:

Capillary action is not a violation of the laws of physics. What about substance monism precludes any life form from existing?

Also are you saying you are a substance dualist?

Hi,

   Is 'substance dualism' the only form of dualism?

I suppose there is idealism (only mind) which would be a theory of no substances. Also nothing precludes someone from postulating 3 types of substances, but this is uncommon because usually the second substance invoked is used to explain all the mysteries.

Maybe you might consider that the idea of substance is simply not even wrong. Matter and Mind are both process, substance is just the relative invariant aspects of such.

Perhaps but "substance dualism" is a useful shorthand for the idea that patterns alone (be they physical, informational, or mathematical) are insufficient for explaining mind.

Craig's idea seems to be that "consciousness is so different that all our conventional scientific knowledge is useless and doomed to fail in explaining it".

There is some sense in which substance dualism can be true. That is when actors in a simulation are controlled by something outside the simulation. For example, human conyrolled charcters in a computer game. There would be no way to explain the motions of the character from within the simulation, every motion would require some intervention.

Substance dualism in our universe would require something similar: interventions (which would constitute violations of the laws of physics) by some entity outside this universe and consequently is somewhat immune to invenstigation by us.

Substance is illusion.

Perhaps, but the illusion of substance seems to follow rules which are never seen to be broken. The question is: are regular violations of these rules part of this illusion of substance?



Onward!

Stephen


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