On 30 Jan 2012, at 00:06, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/29/2012 6:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
There is a huge amount of
evidence along these lines that consciousness does not in fact
supervene on the physical brain.
No, there is a huge number of anecdotes.
But it is proved in the comp theory.
Bruno
I would say that your argument is that consciousness does not
supervene on a *fundamental* physical brain. I don't think it shows
that consciousness can exist without there also being a physical
environment in which it exists, even if the physical is not
fundamental but is part of the same computations.
I think you might be right, but this is not quite clear for me.
Consciousness might make sense only in the relative matter/mind
context, which arise logically, and "simultaneously" from arithmetic,
like all "hypostases", once a machine bet on arithmetical induction.
In any case I don't see that it supports NDE's against more mundane
explanations.
The mundane explanation use comp + materialism, and so is
inconsistent, or it eliminates consciousness, and thus NDE, and all
first-personal experiences.
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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