On 3/13/2012 10:28 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 13.03.2012 18:20 meekerdb said the following:
On 3/13/2012 6:48 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 13 Mar 2012, at 01:43, Russell Standish wrote:


This about experimentally testing Landauer's principle that
computation has thermodynamic constraints.

I was worrying a bit with that title, thinking Landauer's principle
was refuted, but on the contrary, it is confirmed.

The title is misleading, because it looks like computation would need
energy, but the energy is needed only for erasing information, and
since a paper by Hao Wang (universal, and thus all) computations can
be done without ever erasing information.

This confirms also that we can transform information into energy,

That's not quite right. We can use information to make energy available
for work, i.e. reduce entropy. The energy is already there, it's just
not accessible for useful work.


Could you please give one example from physics (yet please not a thought experiment) where information allows us to reduce entropy?


As fas a I remember, you have told previously that information in physics is the entropy,

I think your memory is wrong.  Please cite where I said that.


so your statement now looks a bit strange.


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