Brian, thanks for the excerpt from the Stanford Enc. It is the usual 'scientifically' diluted 'everything', yet includes some supprt for John's quoted phrase. May I add my contribution (not included in the Enc.-txt: In -MY- belief system we are part of that infinite complexity we may call "world" - or: "Everything" with very limited knowledge of its structure and 'content' (if it has such). WITHIN those possibilities the complexity provides we can choose from those chances we know of - and we do. Other 'chances' are hidden, "no-chances" are excluded. So whatever we 'will' is a limited choice - but freely so. It is yet our responsibility from the limited sortiment - faith-based philosophies have it almost right - except for the influence of the 'hidden' part from us, playing a part in our cognition. It is not "partially free": rather it is "partially deterministic". We THINK it is free will.
R A N D O M is another thorn in my views: if such thing was real and available (in any aspect) we were wrong in ANY prediction we made and make upon the belief that data will fall into position. Unless, of course, one restricts random to those instances where it would interfere with a non-random computation. (Nice random, indeed!) Then there is another flaw: random is thought of in our known logical systems, a restricted domain and not controling Nature (Everything) at all. We don't even know if the 'infinite complexity' is a dynamic set of relations only, or an infinite(?) system(?) of everything in an interchange? Or: whatever we cannot even think of? But we are proud of our Free Will. Good for us. John Mikes On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Brian Tenneson <[email protected]> wrote: > Of course it doesn't, nothing real can have anything to do with "free >> will" because "free will" is gibberish. >> > > http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/freewill/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
