On 6/15/2012 9:01 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:01:45 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
If you turn that understanding around though, you will solve the hard problem:
The micro-state description has lots of information missing, but the absence is in a
form that you need a macroscopic human observer (with or without a camera) to record.
When you look to the micro you get a lot of low quality but precise data. When you look
at the macro you get less data but it has much more meaning and aesthetic value to the
observer.
What your view is missing is that it takes for granted that the micro, distant,
a-signifying presentation is not a presentation at all, but rather just the totality of
what 'simply is'. When we focus on that hyper-realization of objects, we get a worldview
which necessarily de-personalizes the subject. We disqualify and discard the universe of
'information' that 'seems like' it might be, based on the momentum of history which is
still recovering from the excesses of worldviews which hyper-personalize the object and
de-realize the subject.
I'm willing to work a little to try to extract meaning from information - but not enough
to try to extract it from blather.
If you look at my diagram, I am integrating information as a two part phenomenon -
inform and form. I think this solves the explanatory gap as the space between 'Sense'
and 'Inform' denotes the symbol grounding problem where the stream of sense input may or
may not match the capacity of the system to be informed by it - as you say 'not in a
form you can record with a camera.' Human emotion is information which is not in a form
you can record with silicon.
So you pontificate...over and over and over.
Brent
The micro state is what I call 'lower caste' relative to our higher caste
anthropological world. The lower castes are available to the higher castes but described
in mechanistic, generic terms. Castes that are higher than our own, by contrast, appear
to us as uncanny synchronizations and coincidences, as well as super-signifying icons
and archetypes, cliches, narratives, etc.
It has lots of information - just not in a form you can record with a
camera.
the warm water by itself has higher averaged physical entropy over the duration of the
movie, but very little information entropy and I wind up with a small file output. --
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