On Friday, June 15, 2012 12:08:15 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
> I'm willing to work a little to try to extract meaning from information - 
> but not enough to try to extract it from blather.

New ideas have always required new vocabulary. How could it be otherwise? I 
can see how it might not seem clear, but I don't think that any degree of 
clarity can compensate for someone who isn't interested in the ideas behind 

> If you look at my diagram, I am integrating information as a two part 
> phenomenon - inform and form. I think this solves the explanatory gap as 
> the space between 'Sense' and 'Inform' denotes the symbol grounding problem 
> where the stream of sense input may or may not match the capacity of the 
> system to be informed by it - as you say 'not in a form you can record with 
> a camera.' Human emotion is information which is not in a form you can 
> record with silicon.
> So you pontificate...over and over and over.
> Brent
And so you deny without explanation, over and over and over. 

> The micro state is what I call 'lower caste' relative to our higher caste 
> anthropological world. The lower castes are available to the higher castes 
> but described in mechanistic, generic terms. Castes that are higher than 
> our own, by contrast, appear to us as uncanny synchronizations and 
> coincidences, as well as super-signifying icons and archetypes, cliches, 
> narratives, etc.
>> It has lots of information - just not in a form you can record with a 
>> camera.
>>  the warm water by itself has higher averaged physical entropy over the 
> duration of the movie, but very little information entropy and I wind up 
> with a small file output. -- 

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