On 10/5/2012 4:56 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:32 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net
On 10/5/2012 2:04 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
2012/10/4 John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com <mailto:johnkcl...@gmail.com>>
Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com <mailto:agocor...@gmail.com>>
>> Mother Nature (Evolution) is a slow and stupid tinkerer, it
3 billion years to work on the problem but it couldn't even
with a macroscopic part that could rotate in 360 degrees!
> First of all, 360 degrees rotation is present in the flagela of
bacteria, invented about 3800 million years ago
I know, that's why I said "macroscopic". It's easy to make if the wheel
microscopic because nutriments can just diffuse in and waste products
out; but as parts get bigger the volume increases by the cube of the
the surface area only increases by the square, so when things get big
just isn't good enough. Evolution never figured out how to do better
and make a
wheel large enough to see, but people did.
I explained in a post above why evolution does not select weels. An
living being must be topologically connected, and weels are not. This is a
consequence of the need of repairability. No autonomous robot with weels
for long time without supoort.. This is explained in detail somewhere above.
I can imagine a design in which wheels are connected to the circulatory
as some vehicles are built with hydraulic motors in their wheels. Or the
might be separate organisms in a symbiotic relation. Those are possible -
too hard to get there from here. So you make the point yourself, evolution
constrained in ways that rational design is not.
Do we know that imagination doesn't use an evolutionary process (behind the scenes) to
come up with new ideas? Could it be that our brains use evolutionary techniques,
combining different things we know in random ways and running internal testing and
selection of those ideas, before they bubble up into an Ah-Ha moment that we become
Do we have any reason to believe ideas reproduce with variation and then those that
reproduce most successfully rise to consciousness? THAT would be a Darwinian theory of
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