Hi Bruno Marchal 

Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
10/9/2012 
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Time: 2012-10-08, 10:19:35
Subject: Re: Zombieopolis Thought Experiment


Hi Roger,

On 08 Oct 2012, at 16:14, Roger Clough wrote:

> Hi Stathis Papaioannou
>
> I would put it that mind is superphysical. Beyond spacetime.
> Supernatural as a word carries too much baggage.

With comp, the natural numbers are supernatural enough.

Bruno



>
> Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
> 10/8/2012
> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
>
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> Time: 2012-10-08, 03:14:29
> Subject: Re: Zombieopolis Thought Experiment
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>
> On 08/10/2012, at 3:07 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
>> Absolutely not. We know no such thing. Quite the opposite, we know 
>> with relative certainty that what we understand of physics provides 
>> no possibility of anything other than more physics. There is no 
>> hint of any kind that these laws should lead to any such thing as 
>> an 'experience' or awareness of any kind. You beg the question 100% 
>> and are 100% incapable of seeing that you are doing it.
>
> Well, if it's not the laws of physics then it's something 
> supernatural, isn't it?
>
>
> -- Stathis Papaioannou 
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