Hi John Clark
<snip> ROGER: > if you could tell me how to determine if a computer has intelligence JOHN: The same way I determine if one of my fellow human beings is intelligent, if he beats me at a intellectual task then he's intelligent, in fact he's more intelligent than I am at least at that task. A few people are more intelligent than me at nearly everything, some are better at only a few very specialized tasks and some are better than me at nothing, like people in a coma or dead people. ROGER: But if a computer beats you at an intelligent task, it would have to be programmed to do so. which means that its intelligence would be that of the programmer. This is always the case. Computers cannot make free choices on arbitray problems. So they have no intelligence. (previously) > free will JOHN: What a odd sequence of ASCII characters, perhaps your keyboard had a malfunction. ROGER: ? (previously) > consciousness JOHN: I detect consciousness in computers the exact same way I determine it in my fellow human beings, I guess.? \I guess that if they're behaving intelligently then they're conscious. ? John K Clark ? ROGER: I already asked you how you would determine the intelligence of a computer but your answer made no sense. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.