On Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:59:50 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:15 AM, Roger Clough 
> <rcl...@verizon.net<javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > ROGER: But if a computer beats you at an intelligent task, it would have 
> to be programmed to do so. 
> >     which means that its intelligence would be that of the programmer. 
> This is always the case. 
> >     Computers cannot make free choices on arbitray problems. So they 
> have no intelligence. 
> But if a human beats you at an intelligent task he would have been 
> programmed to do so - by evolution, by parents, teachers and various 
> other aspects of the environment. So the intelligence of the human is 
> really the intelligence of his programmers. 

This assumes some kind if tabula rasa era toy model of human development. 
As you can see from the differences between conjoined twins, who have the 
same nature and nurture, the same environment, that they are not the same 
people and do not necessarily have the same kinds of intelligences. Human 
beings are not programmed, they have to willingly participate in their own 
lives, they have to direct their attention to discover their own personal 


> -- 
> Stathis Papaioannou 

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