2012/10/10 Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com> > 2012/10/10 Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>: > > > > On 09 Oct 2012, at 18:58, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > > > >> It may be a zombie or not. I canĀ“t know. > >> > >> The same applies to other persons. It may be that the world is made of > >> zombie-actors that try to cheat me, but I have an harcoded belief in > >> the conventional thing. Maybe it is, because otherwise, I will act > >> in strange and self destructive ways. I would act as a paranoic, after > >> that, as a psycopath (since they are not humans). That will not be > >> good for my success in society. Then, I doubt that I will have any > >> surviving descendant that will develop a zombie-solipsist > >> epistemology. > >> > >> However there are people that believe these strange things. Some > >> autists do not recognize humans as beings like him. Some psychopaths > >> too, in a different way. There is no authistic or psichopathic > >> epistemology because the are not functional enough to make societies > >> with universities and philosophers. That is the whole point of > >> evolutionary epistemology. > > > > > > > > If comp leads to solipsism, I will apply for being a plumber. > > > > I don't bet or believe in solipsism. > > > > But you were saying "that a *conscious* robot" can lack a soul. See the > > quote just below. > > > > That is what I don't understand. > > > > Bruno > > > > I think that It is not comp what leads to solipsism but any > existential stance that only accept what is certain and discard what > is only belief based on conjectures. > > It can go no further than "cogito ergo sum" >
And therefore only believing I can be a social being > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> 2012/10/9 Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>: > >>> > >>> > >>> On 09 Oct 2012, at 13:29, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> But still after this reasoning, I doubt that the self conscious > >>> philosopher robot have the kind of thing, call it a soul, that I have. > >>> > >>> > >>> ? > >>> > >>> You mean it is a zombie? > >>> > >>> I can't conceive consciousness without a soul. Even if only the > universal > >>> one. > >>> So I am not sure what you mean by soul. > >>> > >>> Bruno > >>> > >>> > >>> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >>> "Everything List" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Alberto. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "Everything List" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > >> > > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Everything List" group. > > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > Alberto. > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.