Hi Stephen P. King  

Good. That is another way to define objective (public). 
Whereas 1p is personal and always private.

If 1p is communicated, it becomes 3p.


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
11/5/2012  
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On 11/5/2012 10:11 AM, Roger Clough wrote: 
> Hi meekerdb 
> 
> The dilemma is that 1p is subjective and hence solipsistic, but when spoken 
> about it is 
> objective (3p, 2p; he, or you). 
> 
> And as far as dualisms go, the only important one is subjective/objective. 
Hi Roger, 

     Think of a 3p as a 'confirm-able' agreement or synchrony between a  
pair of 1p's. 


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> 
> 
> Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
> 11/5/2012 
> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 
> 
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> 
> On 11/4/2012 11:44 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: 
> No one has ever pretend it is paradoxical or contradictory about that. But 
> with the definition of 1p, it shows that something is indeterminate. 
> 
> It shows that the referent of "you" is uncertain - which is John's complaint 
> about pronouns. So which 1p is indeterminate. 
> 
> Brent 
> 


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