On Monday, December 17, 2012 8:02:12 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
> On 12/17/2012 5:11 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: 
> > Taxing the rich does not redistribute the income, it adjusts the 
> > expenses so that those who benefit disproportionately from the public 
> > resources pay their share for an educated labor force, policed cities, 
> > well maintained roads, bridges, ports, airports, the grotesquely 
> > hypertrophied military to enforce monopolistic trade policies 
> > worldwide, etc. 
> Hi Craig, 
>      Could explain how it is that it is possible to "proportionally 
> benefit" from public resources? Are you saying that resources are the 
> natural property of the State and not of those willing to do the 
> investment of time and labor to exploit them? 

In a democracy, they are the natural property of the taxpayers who pay for 
their construction and maintenance. The Port of Los Angeles is not the 
property of Onassis Shipping or whatever. If they are making hand over fist 
and bring in a dozen more tankers a week - who pays for the extra staffing 
of that? Who pays for the construction on the port to be upgraded. This is 
how corporations remain so profitable - privatize profit and socialize cost.

>      By my logic, if the taxes of the public where taken from individual 
> people, then the public resources belong proportionately to those 
> individuals that paid the taxes. This means that if Fred paid more taxes 
> than Albert then the public resources belong that much more to Fred than 
> Albert. Simple math... How do you calculate "benefit"? 

It's easy to calculate benefit - you look at the books. You see how much 
more money a corporation is making and how much more costs are incurred by 
the government to underwrite that volume of gains.

>      I don't understand the collectivization of people into equivalence 
> classes. Numbers are equivalence classes, not people! I am trying to 
> understand your thesis, not saying your wrong. ;-) 

I'm open to being wrong, I just need to be pointed in the direction of a 
reason why that might be the case.


> -- 
> Onward! 
> Stephen 

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