On 05 Feb 2013, at 14:45, Craig Weinberg wrote:

On Tuesday, February 5, 2013 6:50:14 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 04 Feb 2013, at 01:14, Craig Weinberg wrote:

On Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:37:42 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote:
Dear Roger,

Only 4d spacetime, matter and energy are physical. Everything else is
non-physical and therefore part of the mind. This includes comp up
thru quantum mechanics. Only 4 dimensions for example of the 11d
universe are physical.

Except that my non-physical intentions cause my physical matter to exert energy. If the non-physical and physical can directly influence each other, can the separation really be said to be complete? At the very least private experience should be trans- physical or tele-physical as non-physical doesn't leave any room for interaction.

Of course, I see everything as physical, with time-based experience being private physics and the addition of space-based realism being public physics.

This contradicts some of your earlier posts. I take it now that you do assume a primary physical reality. OK?

Physical but not material.

OK. That makes sense (in your non-comp theory).

I just try to understand your views.

It's confusing and unfamiliar, I admit. I am trying to say that physics is actually only a participatory sensory-motor experience. There is no reality beyond experience (not human experience of course) and the principles which govern it. Matter is just a kind of experience, as is thought, arithmetic, music, etc).

OK; but of course, like you say, experience has to become primitive. Which I find not very satisfactory, and even a bit "racist" with respect to machine, or handicap people (with prostheses). But your view remains coherent (at least).



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