On 16 Mar 2013, at 20:40, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/16/2013 10:55 AM, [email protected] wrote:
On Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:39:55 PM UTC, Roger Clough wrote:
We live in an indefinite world of superposed quantum states,
Doesn't it depend what you mean by 'live'? As far as I can see, I
live in a definite world, but I am aware of having an imagination
and a bunch of concepts about life (same thing?) Since I observe my
imagination I can say it is also definite, though what it purports
to reference is not observed and therefore is not definite. Linking
this with another current thread, if you have a QM-realistic view
of life, can you hold to a materialist view of consciousness?
I have the impression that on this list "materialist" has come be an
epithet. It is applied to physicists who think the world consists
of a ray in an infinite dimensional complex Hilbert space - which is
about as "material" as Bruno's modal logic. Apparently anything
that is well defined and makes definite predictions is "material".
To say that world is a big ray is still physicalism, but also non
materialism as the physical reality become mathematical.
But materialist will add that the Hillbert ray is just a too to
descrive the bahavior of some primary matter.
The computationalist, post-UDA if I can say, will not favor
physicalist, neither in its materialist or mathemlaticalist form. He
asks for a justification of that Hilbert ray from elementary
arithmetic/computer science only.
Bruno
Brent
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