On Monday, April 8, 2013 7:42:22 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:50 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]<javascript:>> > wrote: > > On 4/4/2013 3:35 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:44 PM, meekerdb > >> <[email protected]<javascript:>> > wrote: > >>> > >>> On 4/3/2013 2:44 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > >>>> > >>>> You're making the same mistake as John Clark, confusing the physical > >>>> computer with the algorithm. Powerful computers don't help us if we > >>>> don't > >>>> have the right algorithm. The central mystery of AI, in my opinion, > is > >>>> why > >>>> on earth haven't we found a general learning algorithm yet. Either > it's > >>>> too > >>>> complex for our monkey brains, or you're right that computation is > not > >>>> the > >>>> whole story. I believe in the former, but not I'm not sure, of > course. > >>>> Notice that I'm talking about generic intelligence, not > consciousness, > >>>> which > >>>> I strongly believe to be two distinct phenomena. > >>> > >>> > >>> Then do you think there could be philosophical zombies? > >> > >> Yes. > > > > > > Could it be that some humans are zombies, or do you assume that to be a > > zombie would mean being physically different from a human being? > > I don't know. >
Sociopaths are emotional zombies. Corruption or addiction can make people into moral zombies. Driving for a long time can make someone a highway zombie. Cults and brainwashing can make someone an intellectual zombie. There are many ways which aspects of personal human consciousness can become subconscious, sub-personal, and sub-human. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
