On 23 Jun 2013, at 04:29, [email protected] wrote:
I read Sarfatti's website, Stardrive.org, too, and I am not sure he
does the Leibniz idealism as you do. He seems more attuned to
whether the future, or future beings from the distant future, try to
influence their past. He doesn't claim its people or our
descendants, just that information is being written to the present.
Which in itself is a mind bending concept.
Beyond Sarfatti, is the question of Len Susskind's Boltzmann Brains.
The physics described forced the creation of observers via
temperature differentials, somehow, as the universe expanded. This
somehow created observers, which sprang up out of no where, but had
defined memories of the past and identities. It somehow reminds me
of the monads you speak of, and because it is so jolly, science
fictional, it appeals to me. Because my mind works this way, I have
wondered if God was a Boltzmann Brain of sorts, mysterious,
intelligent, etc, but was created with the Big Bang. Perhaps
external to the Big Bang was something He did himself, and manifests
now as a Boltzmann Brain? I also wonder if others are out there?
Boltzann brain are relatively rare, and it is unclear how they are
related to the universal system running it.
But if you agree with 2+2 = 4, it is only a tedious long, and not so
easy, yet standard, exercise to prove the existence of infinitely many
Boltzmann brain and (all) other universal numbers in arithmetic,
together with all finite initial segment of computations. We are
distributed in there, and what you call "physical reality" has to
emerge naturally from the statistical view from inside.
Boltzmann brain, as physical object are still Aristotelian chimer,
based on brain-mind identity thesis. All physical brains, notably,
are the result of the statistical and arithmetical interference of all
computations.
I don't know if what is true, but that is testable, with a spectrum of
variant according to the axiomatic of knowledge chosen.
Others are there, but "out there" is not out there.
Bruno
Mitch
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Clough <[email protected]>
To: JACK SARFATTI <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Jun 22, 2013 6:31 am
Subject: Why do you folks keep having conferences about
consciousness ? Because you have erased the subject, And Cs. =
subject + object
Hi JACK SARFATTI
Consciousness = subject + object = subjective world + objective world
Nice physics, very erudite, but If there's no subject, then
there's no consciousness. But if you include a subject, the
consciousness
problem is trivial. You don't to keep having conferences about the
"mystery" of consciousness. It's only a mystery if you have lweft the
subject out of the picture.
Like it or not , Idealism is the only philosophy that takes mind
seriously,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idealism
and Leibniz was the only philosopher to rationally solve
the mind/body problem. It's only the "hard problem"
if, like Chalmers, you are a meterialist and
subjectivity is not in your vocabulary.
Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
See my Leibniz site at
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough
----- Receiving the following content -----
From: JACK SARFATTI
Receiver: Kim Burrafato
Time: 2013-06-21, 23:17:54
Subject: Fwd: [1306.4853] Relativistic Quantum Communication
>"In this Ph.D. thesis, I investigate the communication abilities of
non-inertial observers
>and the precision to which they can measure parametrized states. I
introduce
relativistic
>quantum field theory with field quantisation, and the definition and
transformations of
>mode functions in Minkowski, Schwarzschild and Rindler spaces. I
introduce
information
>theory by discussing the nature of information, defining the entropic
information
>measures, and highlighting the differences between classical and
quantum
information. I
>review the field of relativistic quantum information. We
investigate the
communication
>abilities of an inertial observer to a relativistic observer
hovering above a
Schwarzschild
>black hole, using the Rindler approximation."
>
>
>
>Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Kim Burrafato
>> Subject: [1306.4853] Relativistic Quantum Communication
>> Date: June 21, 2013 7:03:52 PM PDT
>> To: Jack Sarfatti
>>
>> http://arxiv.org/abs/1306.4853
>>
>>
>
>
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups
"Everything List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
send an email
to [email protected].
To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "Everything List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
send an email to [email protected].
To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"Everything List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
to [email protected].
To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
