On 01 Jul 2013, at 18:25, [email protected] wrote:
You'll likely hate my comment, but Susskind and Raphael Bousso are
or were pretty big on Boltzmann Brains. The more I look at the words
of physicists speaking about this phenomena (pro and con) the more
it seems to be an evolving theology. Bostrom might also be into
this. Conway may not even be aware of BB, and I would guess that
Tegmark would laugh it all off. Which maybe he should. I am amzed
and sometimes inspired by the discussions regarding this. Questions
arise and evolve such as-
In an infinite universe you'd produce more BB's them people
What about a smaller number of BB's?
Would these observers be as described? Having their own personal
memories, and personalities, however false?
Being of human level intelligence or better.?
I asked Dr. Clough if a BB could be one of his Monads??
There has been a question asked out there internet-land, whether we
exist as thoughs or ideas in one BB?
Finally, is our BB, God?
One Russian Physicist working in Peking wrote a paper that he saw
BB's as likely, but that each cosmos would have it's own BB.
They begin to well exposed comp, without saying. A BB is a
computation, implemented in some universe (which physicists assume).
But "computation implemented in some universe" is what the universal
dovetailer dovetail on, and so you can say that there exists
infinities of BB in arithmetic.
This leads to a testable conclusion: it is enough to look at ourselves
below the reconstitution level, and see if we get the "web of dreams"
predicted by computer science.
If we don't find this, it can means three things:
- comp is false
- the classical theory of knowledge is false
- we are in a local simulation, by our descendants perhaps.
It's mind-numbing and perhaps not even worth discussing (?) I
apologize if this is too crazy, but it's what I have been
interneting about the last couple of weeks. If Our BB did write a
program that eventually created us, that might do it for me.
That's Bayesianism, or ASSA. This miss the FPI. We are, in a sense,
in all Boltzman Brains. You must take the FPI into account on the
whole of arithmetic, because you cannot be aware of the gigantic
delays brought by the "natural implementation of it" made by arithmetic.
Other's would say no. At any rate, it might be a nice thing to be
friendly to our universe's BB, if only to enjoy commincating (if
possible?) with such a brilliant mind.
BB's were believed by Boltzmann to evolve from thermal differences
in space. Sort of like Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy drive
producing a air borne whale, falling to the surface of the planet,
Magarthea. Or it might be one way to simply arrive, via thermal
fluctuations.
I agree that the question of concrete BB in our probable universe
belongs to sc. fi today, but this does not really matter, because if
we are machine, then we belong already in all BB that exists in
arithmetic, and below our substitution level, they multiply and
parallelise, if I can say.
Well, string drink is called for.
You can't. You have first to derive it from machine's dream theory.
Bruno
Mitch
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Resch <[email protected]>
To: Everything List <[email protected]>; foar <[email protected]
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Sent: Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:13 pm
Subject: Worth while video
On the subject of reality, featuring John Conway, Max Tegmark,
Leonard Susskind, and Nick Bostrom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyH2D4-tzfM
Jason
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