Brent, please acknowledge that aside from the divine right of kings, the 
Atheist-Marxists did exactly the identical badness under the leaderships of 
Stalin,Mao, Pol Pot, the Kim Dynasty in North Korean, slaughtered tens of 
millions, tortured, deprived women of rights, slave labor, and specialized, in 
torture. All these scientific socialsts, all athesists. Just a way of putting 
things into perspective. 

Mitch

"Peasent: Hey! That's a good idea!
God: Of course it's a good idea, you idiot!"

----Monty Python and the Holy Grail 


Of course this ethic requiredness supported slavery, ethnic cleansing, divine 
ight of 
ings, faith over inquiry, ignorance over knowledge, oppression of women, and 
nfinite 
orture for unbelievers.
Brent
Whoever wants to be a Christian should tear the eyes out of
is Reason."
      --- Martin Luther





-----Original Message-----
From: meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 4, 2013 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: John Leslie's 'Infinite Minds: A Philosophical Cosmology'


On 7/4/2013 5:02 PM, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
 Hey List! (and in particular Bruno)
 I have started re-reading the book I mention in the subject line -- after 
anguishing in 
 my bookshelf for a number of years, I pulled it out and began noticing the 
ncanny 
 parallels it had with Bruno's UDA, although it reaches the same conclusions by 
ome 
 rather different means, notably; it postulates God as the thinker of all 
houghts, 
 envisioning god in a Spinozistic/Platonic light, and (something that from what 
 have 
 read seems absent from the UDA) postulates the 'ethical requiredness' of God 
s being of 
 enough force to bring him into being, thus short-circuiting the old " If God 
xists, 
 what caused him to exist?" type of argument.
Yeah, "postulating" is a good way to short circuit arguments (and burn out 
ational wiring).
> I guess my general question is if any of you are familiar with Leslie's work 
nd if so, 
 to what degree, and also if so, to what degree do you find it plausible?
 Myself, I seem to be going through a kind of metaphysical conversion of sorts, 
ne 
 where, despite the multiplicity of minds/universes, there nevertheless seems 
o be an 
 unspeakable and seemingly permanent unity to all things. I'm almost leaning 
owards 
 Christianity, for the simple reason that it seems peculiar and particular 
nough to just 
 be right and suitable to reality. (Reading CS Lewis' 'Mere Christianity' has 
wayed me 
 in this way -- check it out, it's online).
Of course this ethic requiredness supported slavery, ethnic cleansing, divine 
ight of 
ings, faith over inquiry, ignorance over knowledge, oppression of women, and 
nfinite 
orture for unbelievers.
Brent
Whoever wants to be a Christian should tear the eyes out of
is Reason."
      --- Martin Luther
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