On 7/11/2013 12:22 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The god of the materialist is Matter, and I don't believe in it. I am agnostic. 
I search.

I think you do believe in matter - you often refer to your coffee, for example. You just don't believe it is fundamental. But that's a very different thing. Money isn't fundamental, but I still believe I have some in the bank. I think you are disingenuous when you claim to have disproven matter and that materialists are wrong. Even if you are right, I think it will turn out that matter is necessary for consciousness and so matter, while not primitive, will underlie the world as a necessary layer between arithmetic and consciousness.


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