On 12 Jul 2013, at 21:25, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/11/2013 12:22 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The god of the materialist is Matter, and I don't believe in it. I
am agnostic. I search.
I think you do believe in matter - you often refer to your coffee,
for example. You just don't believe it is fundamental.
Yes. I believe in matter, but not in Matter.
But that's a very different thing. Money isn't fundamental, but I
still believe I have some in the bank. I think you are disingenuous
when you claim to have disproven matter and that materialists are
wrong. Even if you are right, I think it will turn out that matter
is necessary for consciousness and so matter, while not primitive,
will underlie the world as a necessary layer between arithmetic and
That's exactly my point, but I put in a precise and testable way.
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