2013/9/2 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
> On 9/2/2013 11:45 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>> Is it scientific?
> As a general principle, determinism is meta-physics. I doubt that it can
> be strictly falsified because every possible test depends on auxiliary
> hypotheses which one might be willing to give up before declaring a general
> metaphysical principle was invalid. But in the sense of having the
> preponderance of evidence against it, determinism has been falsified.
> Quantum mechanics showed experimentally that no *local* deterministic
> theory can be right. So the principle of determinism conflicts with the
> principle of localism (no faster than light signaling). Determinism can be
> saved by introducing non-local theories, like Bohmian quantum mechanics or
> Everett's multiple worlds.
ISTM MWI is local but multi-valued, but local (no information travel faster
than the speed of light).
> So it comes down to which model seems best. Bohmian quantum mechanics
> can't seem to deal with quantum field theory. Multiple worlds is vague on
> some questions, e.g. basis, but is still promising.
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