John

Popper and specially Feyerabend discovered how the scientists work, not how
scientist should work or or how they think that they work, since the subtle
details of the process of scientific discovery are unconscious unless a lot
of time is devoted to think how we think. They gave it light and showed
their flaws and strengths. Read again the tread for the details.


2013/9/10 chris peck <chris_peck...@hotmail.com>

> Hi John
>
> *>>
> And I am STILL waiting for somebody to tell me one thing that bozos like
> Popper and Feyerabend who call themselves philosophers have discovered in
> the last 2 centuries that is deep, clear, precise, unexpected and true that
> scientists had not discovered long before.It seems like a simple request
> and I have asked 3 times but nobody can think of a damn thing; and yet
> people continue to tell me how wonderful Feyerabend and Popper were.*
>
> Yeah, Ive noticed that too. You've asked at least twice before, I can
> completely vouch for you on that one. On this very thread you set the
> challenge earlier and then again later but before this current instance.
> And now you've set it again. By my calculations that makes it at least 3
> times you've asked people this. There might be other times that I haven't
> noticed, I can't say for sure about that. Perhaps you could help out on
> this detail? It might be more than three but it definitely isn't less. And
> you can trust in me completely to back you up on that to anyone who says
> different.
>
> All the best.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 01:28:16 -0400
>
> Subject: Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?
> From: johnkcl...@gmail.com
> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013  chris peck <chris_peck...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > it seems to me that John has just misunderstood Feyerabend.
>
>
> It seems to me that  "the church at the time of Galileo was much more
> faithful to reason than Galileo himself" leaves little room for
> misunderstanding and is as clear as it is imbecilic. And I might add that
> anyone who feels compelled to defend such a moronic statement is also a
> moron.
>
> > Unsuprising given his misunderstanding of Popper
>
>
> Even Popper misunderstood Popper because he admitted (in 1978!) that he
> was wrong about Darwin. That's almost as good as the church admitting (in
> the year 2000!) that they may have gone just a bit too far in their
> treatment of Galileo and maybe just maybe he had a point after all. There
> have been calls for the church to reopen the case against the astronomer
> Giordano Bruno and give hin a posthumous apology for burning him alive for
> saying that the stars were other suns, but so far the church has not done
> so, but give them time, it's only been 413 years.
>
> > not to mention Darwin.
>
>
> Please show me that your understanding of Darwin is greater than my own.
> Dazzle me with your brilliance.
>
> > From a Popperian point of view Galileo ought to be regarded as
> unscrupulous and the church should be regarded as the more reasonable party
> in the affair.
>
>
> Galileo discovered new knowledge for humanity, Popper and Feyerabend
> discovered nothing, zip zero zilch goose egg. And they were both
> philosophers and if it really was their point of view that Galileo was
> unscrupulous and the church reasonable then these ignorant jackasses are
> yet another reason philosophers have a bad name.
>
> And I am STILL waiting for somebody to tell me one thing that bozos like
> Popper and Feyerabend who call themselves philosophers have discovered in
> the last 2 centuries that is deep, clear, precise, unexpected and true that
> scientists had not discovered long before. It seems like a simple request
> and I have asked 3 times but nobody can think of a damn thing; and yet
> people continue to tell me how wonderful Feyerabend and Popper were. I
> think they were like bad movie critics, full of condemnation about how
> other people made their movie but couldn't make one themselves if you put a
> gun to their head.
>
>   John K Clark
>
>
>
>
>
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