On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 4:33:32 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: > > On 10/8/2013 1:22 PM, smi...@zonnet.nl <javascript:> wrote: > >> > >> A lot of what I am always talking about is in there...computers don't > >> understand produce because they have no aesthetic sensibility. A > mechanical > >> description of a function is not the same thing as participating in an > >> experience. > > So when the check-out robot can recognize okra - which the cashiers always > have to look up > - you'll agree that robots have aesthetic sensibilty. >
Aesthetic sensibility is not something that we can agree that something has except for ourselves. I mention aesthetic sensibility because the things that computers fail at in the article are related to sensation and the fact that it is different from states of computation. Similarly, a traffic signal is not the same thing as a traffic cop, even if they perform the same function relative to the flow of traffic. We get a robot to identify something which matches a description as 'okra' in the most primitive sense of matching, but that doesn't mean that it has any sense of what it is. A weighted picture of okra, or some plastic okra would probably do just as well. >> > >> Craig > >> > > > > > > You can't expect a machine with the computational capabilities of less > than an insect > > brain to the job most people do. > > And they don't even give the machine two weeks to learn. > > > It's actually amazing that such machines can do quite a lot, but some > tasks we perform > > are the result of a significant part of our brain power. > > Most of the problem is in recognizing 3D objects. It may prove easier to > create sniffers > and chemical detectors. I'll bet my dog could tell papaya from mango > blindfolded. > > Brent > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
