Was that "The Descent of Woman" (or was it ascent?)
I read it some years ago now. Seemed to make sense.



On 23 October 2013 15:18, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I read in Elain Morgan's (Oxford UK) "Aquatic Ape" book an enjoyable
> comparison between human characteristic and those of pigs.
> It is not about hybridization at all. Enjoyable reading stuff.
> (The book is quite different from th recent denigration of the 'topic'
> into the mermaids and creationist aberrations).
> JM
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 7:36 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Where do pigs come in? :)
>>
>>
>> On 23 October 2013 12:24, Chris de Morsella <cdemorse...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Yes... and some very interesting stuff too... It's also interesting also
>>> how
>>> widespread the interbreeding between Neanderthal and Denisovan's appears
>>> to
>>> have been based on DNA
>>> Interestingly there now appears to have been at least two separate
>>> hominid
>>> species -- including Homo floresiensis i.e. the Hobbits -- that in
>>> addition
>>> to the Neanderthal  in Europe primarily -- have left a genetic trail in
>>> the
>>> heritage of the peoples now living in Micronesia and amongst aboriginal
>>> Australian populations. This is more clear in the case of the Denisovan's
>>> and Neanderthal and we can only speculate whether it also occurred
>>> between
>>> homo sapiens and homo floresiensis, but I somehow suspect it happened.
>>> As we become more astute in reading DNA and understanding the larger
>>> sequences that exist in them and their lineages I suspect we will be
>>> finding
>>> other interesting lineages mixed in to our code... and that we are a
>>> hybridized species.
>>> But then is this not the way of nature :)
>>>
>>> Comparing genomes, scientists concluded that today's humans outside
>>> Africa
>>> carry an average of 2.5 percent Neanderthal DNA, and that people from
>>> parts
>>> of Oceania also carry about 5 percent Denisovan DNA. A study published in
>>> November found that Southeast Asians carry about 1 percent Denisovan DNA
>>> in
>>> addition to their Neanderthal genes. It is unclear whether Denisovans and
>>> Neanderthals also interbred. [Other studies seem to indicate that they
>>> did]
>>>
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/31/science/gains-in-dna-are-speeding-research
>>> -into-human-origins.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/31/science/gains-in-dna-are-speeding-research-into-human-origins.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0>
>>>
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>>> Subject: Re: HUMANS all come FROM AFRICA: HERPES does not lie
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:28:19AM +1300, LizR wrote:
>>> > I didn't realise there was still much doubt about this. I thought
>>> > studying human DNA had made the out of Africa hypothesis fairly
>>> > robust. (Obviously more confirming evidence will add another sigma, or
>>> > whatever...)
>>> >
>>>
>>> There is some evidence of interbreeding between the H. sapiens that
>>> migrated
>>> from Africa, and the indigenous Neanderthal and Denisovan species. IIRC,
>>> the
>>> indigineous species contributed something like 10% of the genetic code to
>>> the humans from those areas - N to Europeans, and D to some island
>>> populations off Asia.
>>>
>>> So its not quite Out of Africa exlusively, more like mostly "Out of
>>> Africa",
>>> with a small dash of "Multiregionalism".
>>>
>>> But its fascinating what we've learnt just in the last decade. When my
>>> son
>>> asked me (for a science assignment) to name a significant scientific
>>> technology, I immediately said "PCR"!
>>>
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