Hehe, neither do I, but for sheer outrageousness factor this story stands on
its own as an immortal meme. as a kind of anti-creation myth that strips our
species of any noble origin - such as say crafted in the image of God
almighty or interbred with star people in little flying saucers inseminating
apes. this is the antidote of all these other stories 

Asserting instead how we are hairless pig-apes; and come to think of it we
rather do behave like pigs. so maybe there is something to it ;)

 

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[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR
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That's the one. I don't know if it's true, or if someone's been telling
porkies.

 

On 23 October 2013 13:43, Chris de Morsella <cdemorse...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Are you referring to the hypothesis that human's are the result of a radical
back hybridization from an ape-pig hybrid. Not a very self-ennobling
creation story LOL.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:36 PM


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Where do pigs come in? :)

 

On 23 October 2013 12:24, Chris de Morsella <cdemorse...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yes... and some very interesting stuff too... It's also interesting also how
widespread the interbreeding between Neanderthal and Denisovan's appears to
have been based on DNA
Interestingly there now appears to have been at least two separate hominid
species -- including Homo floresiensis i.e. the Hobbits -- that in addition
to the Neanderthal  in Europe primarily -- have left a genetic trail in the
heritage of the peoples now living in Micronesia and amongst aboriginal
Australian populations. This is more clear in the case of the Denisovan's
and Neanderthal and we can only speculate whether it also occurred between
homo sapiens and homo floresiensis, but I somehow suspect it happened.
As we become more astute in reading DNA and understanding the larger
sequences that exist in them and their lineages I suspect we will be finding
other interesting lineages mixed in to our code... and that we are a
hybridized species.
But then is this not the way of nature :)

Comparing genomes, scientists concluded that today's humans outside Africa
carry an average of 2.5 percent Neanderthal DNA, and that people from parts
of Oceania also carry about 5 percent Denisovan DNA. A study published in
November found that Southeast Asians carry about 1 percent Denisovan DNA in
addition to their Neanderthal genes. It is unclear whether Denisovans and
Neanderthals also interbred. [Other studies seem to indicate that they did]
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/31/science/gains-in-dna-are-speeding-research
<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/31/science/gains-in-dna-are-speeding-researc
h-into-human-origins.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0> 
-into-human-origins.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


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On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:28:19AM +1300, LizR wrote:
> I didn't realise there was still much doubt about this. I thought
> studying human DNA had made the out of Africa hypothesis fairly
> robust. (Obviously more confirming evidence will add another sigma, or
> whatever...)
>

There is some evidence of interbreeding between the H. sapiens that migrated
from Africa, and the indigenous Neanderthal and Denisovan species. IIRC, the
indigineous species contributed something like 10% of the genetic code to
the humans from those areas - N to Europeans, and D to some island
populations off Asia.

So its not quite Out of Africa exlusively, more like mostly "Out of Africa",
with a small dash of "Multiregionalism".

But its fascinating what we've learnt just in the last decade. When my son
asked me (for a science assignment) to name a significant scientific
technology, I immediately said "PCR"!

Cheers
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