On 06 Nov 2013, at 13:48, Roger Clough wrote:
Computers, code and consciousness
Cumputers cannot simulate human activities or experiences
or consciousness because they have to deal in code.
Code is not magic, have no inherent intelligence.
Computers are not magic, they are just machines.
Magic explains even less.
Then, the closure of the computable functions for diagonalization
introduces the "magic" of self-reference, in the different points of
view.
Computers can only deal in code, which is impersonal and
public. They are noit experiences, but can be descruiptions
of experiences, which is not the same thing.
Unfortunately, experiences are
personal and computers, dealing in code only,
have no access to them.
They have access to their own code, but they are confronted to Truth,
also. They have the same difficulty than us to relate truth and code.
Why must I keep explaining this ?
You have missed the discovery of the universal machine. That changes
everything. The universal machine have a rich theology.
Computers deal in code.
At some level. Humans too. Cf DNA.
People don't
At some level. Machines too (cf the machine's first person).
If you need to introduce magic, it means you want escape reason, but
this can only lead to bad faith, wishful thinking, etc.
Computer science shows that there is enough "magic" in reason. No need
to introduce it, as this addition might hide the magic which is there.
Also, your way of reasoning is invalid? If human can use magic to be
conscious, why not machine? You might be underestimating God's power.
Bruno
Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
See my Leibniz site at
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough
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