On 06 Dec 2013, at 18:22, Quentin Anciaux wrote:




2013/12/6 Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com>


On Dec 5, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote:




2013/12/5 Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com>



On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote: A religion is based on dogma, science is not, hence science is not a religion.



Some religions may be, that doesn't mean they all are, however.

How do you relate science to beliefs about the world and reality? Would you say science the collection of those beliefs, or the method for developing the beliefs?

Science is a way to discover the world, nothing is certain, what you believe now may be shown wrong tomorrow... that's not the case with religion...

So if science is the way, the way to what?

I said *a* way. Religion on the contrary is not *a* way, religion will not ask you to doubt it.

In all authoritative regimes you are asked to not doubt some dogma. Dogma are bad in all field of inquiries. I don't see what we should tolerate them in some field.

It looks like some atheists are condescending with the people. They act like thinking that the people are so stupid that they should be allowed to believe in Santa Klaus. But that attitude keep such beliefs strongly in the hand of the authoritative power. I think it is better that people learn to doubt on the fundamental issues too.

Bruno




Quentin

Where do the beliefs belong?

I would say a more correct definition of religion is a collection if beliefs, regardless of how you got them.

Some may rely on dogmas if old books, others on newer books and articles, but either method, science or stake dogmas can provide the basis of one's world view.

Science never provides the final answer, and so to operate in this world we must act in our own private beliefs.

That is just my take according to my own definitions. You may define religion as dogma and come to different cinclusions.

Jason



Quentin


Jason


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