PIerz, Thanks for the laugh, though something smells fishy about your argument!
Though clocks measure only clock time it is clear that present time exists as it is the most fundamental experience of our existence. Second P-time can be measured by Omega, the curvature of our hyperspherical universe which gives us the radius which is the P-time axis back to the big bang. Edgar On Friday, December 27, 2013 8:09:24 PM UTC-5, Pierz wrote: > > Edgar is on the right track, but I need to point out his fundamental > error. There is indeed a different time from clock time. But it's not > called P-time, it's called U-time and every moment does not occur at the > same time across the universe for all observers. Rather, no two events can > ever occur at the same time (in U-time), because every moment is Unique! > Hence U-time. See what I did there? Of course, I can't prove this > hypothesis because U-time is conveniently unmeasurable and incommunicable. > But the implications are profound. I'm amazed nobody has realized this > obvious truth before. But well done Edgar on getting so close. > > On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 6:10:13 AM UTC+11, Edgar L. Owen wrote: >> >> All, >> >> The proof is simply the fact that the time traveling twins meet up again >> with different clock times, but always in the exact same present moment. >> This proves beyond any doubt there are two kinds of time, clock time which >> varies by relativistic observer, and the time of the present moment (what I >> call P-time) which is absolute and common to all observers across the >> universe. >> >> When this is realized there are a number of profound implications. >> >> First that time travel outside the common present moment is impossible >> since all of reality (the entire universe) exists within/is the common >> present moment. The only time travel that is possible is having different >> clock times within the same shared present moment. >> >> Second, that this is compatible with only one cosmological geometry, >> named that the universe is a 4-dimensional hypersphere with P-time (not >> clock time) as its continually extending radial dimension. That is >> cosmological space is positively curved and finite. In fact we all see all >> 4-dimensions of this geometry all the time and visually verify this, as the >> radial P-time dimension is seen as distance in every direction from every >> point in the 3-dimensional space of the hypersphere's surface. >> >> What amazes me is that no one recognized this simple obvious fact prior >> to my stating it in my 1997 paper 'Spacetime and Consciousness'. It's a >> great example of how the trivially obvious can remain unrecognized, no >> matter how important, if it isn't part of the accepted world view of, in >> this case, either common sense or science..... >> >> Edgar >> >> >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.