On 28 December 2013 14:44, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote: > Liz, > > Not at all. What SR shows that there are relativistic situations in which > it is impossible to establish simultaneous clock time t values, for > relativistic observers to agree on the clock time t value of some event, > and then ONLY in the case that relativistic frames are different. When the > frames are relativistically mappable (no relative motion or acceleration) > then t value simultaneity can always be established. >
I don't see how. Different observers will observe events taking place in the same inertial frame as happening in a different order. Their measurements are irreconcilable with the existence of a well defined 3-dimensional "plane of simultaneity". (Unless you are dropping the equivalence principle, perhaps? Even then I'm not sure...) I won't insult your intelligence by spelling it out with a train moving at half the speed of light, mirrors, and a flash bulb going off, because you will have come across that sort of thing many times, no doubt. But you have yet to provide a refutation of what is called "the relativity of simultaneity". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

