# Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

```On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Stephen Paul King <
stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote:```
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> Hi Jason,
>
> "The first, second, 10th, 1,000,000th, and 10^100th, and 10^100^100th
> state of the UD's execution are mathematical facts ..." Umm, how? Godel
> and Matiyasevich would disagree! If there does not exist a program that can
> evaluate whether or not a UD substring is a faithful representation of a
> "true theorem", then how is it "a fact"?
>
>
The mathematical fact to which I am referring is only a basic and
straight-forward statement like "the binary representation of the state of
UD after executing 100..00th steps is '1010101111010...0010". It is not a
question of whether or not that binary string refers to anything that is
true or not, only what its particular value happens to be.

Jason

>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Stephen Paul King <
>> stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jason,
>>>
>>>   Could you discuss the "trace of the UD" that LizR mentioned? How is it
>>> computed? Could you write an explicit example? I have never been able to
>>> grok it.
>>>
>>>
>> Bruno has written an actual UD in the LISP programming language.  I will
>> write a simple one in pseudo-code below:
>>
>> List listOfPrograms = new List[]; # Empty list
>> int i = 0;
>> while (true)
>> {
>>    # Create a program corresponding to the binary expansion of the
>> integer i
>>    Program P = createProgramFromInteger(i);
>>
>>    # Add the program to a list of programs we have generated so far
>>    listOfPrograms.add(P);
>>
>>    # For each program we have generated that has not halted, execute one
>> instruction of it
>>    for each (Program p in listOfPrograms)
>>    {
>>      if (p.hasHalted() == false)
>>      {
>>         executeOneInstruction(p);
>>      }
>>    }
>>
>>    # Finally, increment i so a new program is generated the next time
>> through
>>    i = i + 1;
>> }
>>
>>
>> Any program, and whether or not it ever terminates can be translated to a
>> statement concerning numbers in arithmetic. Thus mathematical truth
>> captures the facts concerning whether or not any program executes forever,
>> and what all of its intermediate states are. If these statements are true
>> independently of you and me, then the executions of these programs are
>> embedded in arithmetical truth and have a platonic existence.  The first,
>> second, 10th, 1,000,000th, and 10^100th, and 10^100^100th state of the UD's
>> execution are mathematical facts which have definite values, and all the
>> conscious beings that are instantiated and evolve and write books on
>> consciousness, and talk about the UD on their Internet, etc. as part of the
>> execution of the UD are there, in the math.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
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