# Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

```If it is Markov, the BB problem automatically follows.
```
```
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Stephen Paul King <
stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote:

> Hi Jason,
>
>   It is Markov... OK.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Stephen Paul King <
>> stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi jason,
>>>
>>>   Do programs have to be "deterministic". What definition of
>>> deterministic are you using?
>>>
>>>
>> All Turing-equivalent computation is deterministic.  By deterministic I
>> mean the (N+1)th state of the machine is exactly and unambiguously defined
>> by the Nth state of the machine.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>>
>>>  On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:54 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 28 December 2013 16:44, Stephen Paul King <
>>>>> stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The first, second, 10th, 1,000,000th, and 10^100th, and
>>>>>> 10^100^100th state of the UD's execution are mathematical facts ..."
>>>>>> Umm, how? Godel and Matiyasevich would disagree! If there does not exist
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> program that can evaluate whether or not a UD substring is a faithful
>>>>>> representation of a "true theorem", then how is it "a fact"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That depends on whether the UD is deterministic or not.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is. The evolution of any Turing machines is deterministic.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> If it is, then, its Nth state is a fact. (It doesn't need to be run or
>>>>> evaluated, and the Nth state may be a fact that nobody knows, like the
>>>>> googolth digit of pi, assuming no one's worked that out.)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Right. :-)
>>>>
>>>> The fact that I remember drinking a glass of water is as much a
>>>> mathematical fact about the UD, as the fact as the third decimal digit of
>>>> Pi is 4.
>>>>
>>>> Jason
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