# Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

```On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Stephen Paul King <
stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote:```
```
> Hi Jason,
>
>   "It is not a question of whether or not that binary string refers to
> anything that is true or not, only what its particular value happens to
> be." No no no! We can not make statements without showing how their proof
> are accessible!
>
>
The proof is straight forward. Run the UD and see what the state is.

Are you objecting that it does not have a definite value because you or I
are not capable of computing it?

Did the 100th digit of Pi not exist until the first human computed it?

> Consider the i-th through j_th values of pi's expansion in binary. If it
> is a finite string, how do we know that it is a Turing machine program?
>
>
All integers can be mapped directly to Turing machine programs.  Consider
Java: it uses a byte-code where every byte is an instruction for the Java
virtual machine.  Every string of bytes can therefore be considered as a
sequence of instructions for the Java virtual machine to execute.

Jason

>
>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Stephen Paul King <
>> stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jason,
>>>
>>> "The first, second, 10th, 1,000,000th, and 10^100th, and 10^100^100th
>>> state of the UD's execution are mathematical facts ..." Umm, how? Godel
>>> and Matiyasevich would disagree! If there does not exist a program that can
>>> evaluate whether or not a UD substring is a faithful representation of a
>>> "true theorem", then how is it "a fact"?
>>>
>>>
>> The mathematical fact to which I am referring is only a basic and
>> straight-forward statement like "the binary representation of the state of
>> UD after executing 100..00th steps is '1010101111010...0010". It is not a
>> question of whether or not that binary string refers to anything that is
>> true or not, only what its particular value happens to be.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Stephen Paul King <
>>>> stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>>
>>>>>   Could you discuss the "trace of the UD" that LizR mentioned? How is
>>>>> it computed? Could you write an explicit example? I have never been able
>>>>> to
>>>>> grok it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Bruno has written an actual UD in the LISP programming language.  I
>>>> will write a simple one in pseudo-code below:
>>>>
>>>> List listOfPrograms = new List[]; # Empty list
>>>> int i = 0;
>>>> while (true)
>>>> {
>>>>    # Create a program corresponding to the binary expansion of the
>>>> integer i
>>>>    Program P = createProgramFromInteger(i);
>>>>
>>>>    # Add the program to a list of programs we have generated so far
>>>>
>>>>    # For each program we have generated that has not halted, execute
>>>> one instruction of it
>>>>    for each (Program p in listOfPrograms)
>>>>    {
>>>>      if (p.hasHalted() == false)
>>>>      {
>>>>         executeOneInstruction(p);
>>>>      }
>>>>    }
>>>>
>>>>    # Finally, increment i so a new program is generated the next time
>>>> through
>>>>    i = i + 1;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any program, and whether or not it ever terminates can be translated to
>>>> a statement concerning numbers in arithmetic. Thus mathematical truth
>>>> captures the facts concerning whether or not any program executes forever,
>>>> and what all of its intermediate states are. If these statements are true
>>>> independently of you and me, then the executions of these programs are
>>>> embedded in arithmetical truth and have a platonic existence.  The first,
>>>> second, 10th, 1,000,000th, and 10^100th, and 10^100^100th state of the UD's
>>>> execution are mathematical facts which have definite values, and all the
>>>> conscious beings that are instantiated and evolve and write books on
>>>> consciousness, and talk about the UD on their Internet, etc. as part of the
>>>> execution of the UD are there, in the math.
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
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