On 18 January 2014 18:50, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/17/2014 7:34 PM, LizR wrote:
>
> On 18 January 2014 16:08, Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 6:58 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On 1/17/2014 2:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>
>> PA is a reality, by itself, indeed an existing Löbian machine, and PA
>> talks about a reality which is vaster than PA, and that no machine can
>> grasp in its entirety. You confuse theory and model here.
>>
>> You can't kick Peano's axioms.
>>
>> What is your point? That things don't exist unless you can kick them?
>>
>
> Real things kick back. Maths kicks back...
>
> Only metaphorically.
>
Fairly obviously.
("I refute it thus!" said Samuel Johnson, stubbing his toe against the
irrationality of pi.)
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