On Jan 19, 2014, at 2:43 AM, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au>
wrote:
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 01:41:08AM -0600, Jason Resch wrote:
On Jan 19, 2014, at 12:04 AM, Russell Standish
<li...@hpcoders.com.au> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:38:28PM -0600, Jason Resch wrote:
Russell,
What are your thoughts regarding
compatibilism<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatibilism>?
Do you consider it a cop-out?
Jason
I think it largely irrelevant, as it is clear we don't live in a
deterministic world.
If many worlds is true, then the equations we obey are
deterministic. We just iterate deterministically over all the
possible outcomes. If this is the case, then I think compatibilism
once again becomes relevant.
Also, if minds are implemented above the level where quantum
randomness plays a major factor then again determinism in the
context of decision making becomes relevant.
How do you define free will? Do you think it is something that would
be impossible within a fully deterministic universe?
Thanks,
Jason
Its the ability to do something stupid, ie take the nonrational
course. This could be achieved in a deterministic world, I suppose,
using a pseudo RNG, but unless it is cryptographically strong, there
is little point.
Russell,
Thanks for your answer. But I am having trouble seeing the link
between doing something stupid and randomness. Are you implying
randomness is necessary for stupidity or making errors?
But in any case, we do not live in a deterministic world (its true
that we live in a deterministic multiverse, but the individual worlds
are not), so we have genuine randomness to exploit for free will,
creativity and so on.
Could an uploaded brain running on a deterministic computer act
irrationally or creatively? (assuming it's entire source code was open
source and it had no access to enviromental randomness)
Jason
Cheers
--
---
---
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile)
Principal, High Performance Coders
Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au
University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au
---
---
----------------------------------------------------------------------
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "Everything List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"Everything List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
