On 19 Jan 2014, at 22:24, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 08:03:31AM -0600, Jason Resch wrote:
Russell,
Thanks for your answer. But I am having trouble seeing the link
between doing something stupid and randomness. Are you implying
randomness is necessary for stupidity or making errors?
How do you choose an irrational action except by reference to
something random or pseudo-random?
There is a special case where binary choices are involved of being
antirational, ie always choosing the opposite of what a rational
player would do. But the antirational strategy has no evolutionary
advantage, nor is it free.
But in any case, we do not live in a deterministic world (its true
that we live in a deterministic multiverse, but the individual
worlds
are not), so we have genuine randomness to exploit for free will,
creativity and so on.
Could an uploaded brain running on a deterministic computer act
irrationally or creatively? (assuming it's entire source code was
open source and it had no access to enviromental randomness)
As mentioned in previous post by a number of people, it is entirely
possible for deterministic processes to be irrational.
Re the creativity question - it is still an open problem, ISTM.
I think this is solved. Creativity = Universality. (Turing
universality). Post gave a definition of "creativity", related to
Gödel's incompleteness. Then It has been shown equivalent with
universality.
Creativity, in Post sense, is a form of ability to compute limits, and
move to something else. It is related with the ability to refute all
theories about oneself (the universal dissidence).
Of course our laptops do not seem quite creative, but this is because
they are programmed that way. The universality is hidden by the many
aps. A bit like the over-heavy programs in some secondary schools can
suffocate the natural creativity of children.
Bruno
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