Haha.

Edgar, I have also modified my views through participation on this list. As 
it has for Liz, Bruno's "comp" has become borderline credible to me, though 
I am far from a "true believer". I've also been educated in a lot of 
philosophy of mind and had my grasp of key concepts in physics refined and 
sharpened. My fundamental position on AI has been altered significantly. 
The process of changing one's core beliefs is a slow, iterative one. 
Everyone's world view is a work in progress, or should be. But necessarily 
and rightly, we change by doing our best to defend our ideas against attack 
and critique. There's a certain irony to your remarks, because I have 
certainly seen not an iota of willingness on your part to change *your*views. 
It seems rather that you think it your business to bring 
enlightenment to everyone else here without truly opening your eyes and 
ears to competing or contradictory ideas. And it's rather disingenuous of 
you to talk about subjecting our ideas to a regime of tests when you 
completely ignored my $100 challenge to define any way to experimentally 
falsify your Universal Present Moment. That whole thread was the most 
exhausting, prolonged piece of head-against-the-wall-bashing I've 
encountered on this list, and believe me I've seen a few!

On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:25:58 AM UTC+11, Brent wrote:
>
>  On 1/20/2014 11:18 AM, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
>  
> There are obviously a lot of very intelligent members here who are well 
> read in modern science. I think everyone would agree with this.
>
>
> Except for a few that are unfamiliar with relativity theory.
>
> Brent
>  

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