Jason, this link doesn't work... Edgar
On Monday, January 20, 2014 6:49:20 PM UTC-5, Jason wrote: > > It looks like I need to update the database connection information: > > http://everythingwiki.gcn.cx/wiki/ > > If others are interested, I will try to find time for that. I think as > useful as any page would be "Bio pages" of members, which state where > people fall on a number of questions, and we can trend that overtime to see > if anyone's mind's change. > > Jason > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Russell Standish > <[email protected]<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> Good luck with that! We tried a wiki project a few years ago to do >> exactly what you propose, but it died of neglect. I'm not sure if the >> results of that effort is still around, even. >> >> Cheers >> >> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:18:37AM -0800, Edgar L. Owen wrote: >> > All, >> > >> > There are obviously a lot of very intelligent members here who are well >> > read in modern science. I think everyone would agree with this. >> > >> > However the usual MO of group members (true of most groups) is simply to >> > argue for their own theories and to criticize those of others, and as a >> > result no one changes their views and no significant progress is made. >> > >> > Let me humbly suggest that we can do better than that... >> > >> > What would really be nice if we could work together cooperatively, in >> the >> > way that actual working science teams do, to build consenses towards >> areas >> > of agreement. >> > >> > The way this works is that first we see what we can agree upon, state >> that >> > clearly in a way all can agree upon, and take that as the basis for >> further >> > progress. >> > >> > Second work to clearly define areas of disagreement and actively analyze >> > and clarify them to prune the disagreements to the minimum possible. >> > >> > Third, devise mutually acceptable tests to resolve these disagreements. >> > >> > Fourth, run the tests and add the results to the areas of agreement. >> > >> > Fifth, use this process iteratively to progress to the maximum areas of >> > agreement possible towards agreement on the most comprehensive theory >> > possible. >> > >> > Now obviously this is probably more doable among small groups that >> already >> > have significant areas of agreement to start with. But as each of these >> > groups make progress defining what they do agree upon they can then >> join to >> > debate the areas of agreement and disagreement between groups and how >> best >> > to resolve those differences. >> > >> > For example I was pleased to learn that Stephen and I agree that block >> time >> > is BS, even though Stephen doesn't seem to actively want to argue that >> > here. So e.g. Stephen and I could try to clearly define our area of >> > agreement here and when we clarify that we could then debate it with the >> > supporters of block time and the UDA who believe differently once they >> > clarify their areas of agreement. >> > >> > My basic point is that instead of just forever arguing our differences, >> it >> > would be great to actively work on defining and clarifying the theories >> > that we could agree upon. It seems to me that would be a truly >> worthwhile >> > mutual endeavor that would progress all our understandings. >> > >> > How about it guys? 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