Spud, We could always ask Kip Thorne who is a of course a leading authority on gravitation to judge. I'm just repeating what his book says.
If anyone has the book Gravitation, Misner, Thorne and Wheeler explain this on page 718. I also ran this dark matter theory by Leonard Susskind a couple years back and he said it was certainly a possibility.. Edgar On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 3:53:07 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote: > > How would you guys collect on this friendly bet? What evidence would > definitively prove who is right? > -----Original Message----- > From: Edgar L. Owen <[email protected] <javascript:>> > To: everything-list <[email protected] <javascript:>> > Sent: Tue, Jan 21, 2014 1:47 pm > Subject: Re: A humble suggestion to the group > > Pierz, > > How about a $100 bet on who's right about spacetime expansion? You or > Misner, Thorne, Wheeler and me? > :-) > > Edgar > > > > On Monday, January 20, 2014 6:42:59 PM UTC-5, Pierz wrote: >> >> Haha. >> >> Edgar, I have also modified my views through participation on this >> list. As it has for Liz, Bruno's "comp" has become borderline credible to >> me, though I am far from a "true believer". I've also been educated in a >> lot of philosophy of mind and had my grasp of key concepts in physics >> refined and sharpened. My fundamental position on AI has been altered >> significantly. The process of changing one's core beliefs is a slow, >> iterative one. Everyone's world view is a work in progress, or should be. >> But necessarily and rightly, we change by doing our best to defend our >> ideas against attack and critique. There's a certain irony to your remarks, >> because I have certainly seen not an iota of willingness on your part to >> change *your* views. It seems rather that you think it your business to >> bring enlightenment to everyone else here without truly opening your eyes >> and ears to competing or contradictory ideas. And it's rather disingenuous >> of you to talk about subjecting our ideas to a regime of tests when you >> completely ignored my $100 challenge to define any way to experimentally >> falsify your Universal Present Moment. That whole thread was the most >> exhausting, prolonged piece of head-against-the-wall-bashing I've >> encountered on this list, and believe me I've seen a few! >> >> On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:25:58 AM UTC+11, Brent wrote: >>> >>> On 1/20/2014 11:18 AM, Edgar L. Owen wrote: >>> >>> There are obviously a lot of very intelligent members here who are well >>> read in modern science. I think everyone would agree with this. >>> >>> >>> Except for a few that are unfamiliar with relativity theory. >>> >>> Brent >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> > . > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

