How would you guys collect on this friendly bet? What evidence would 
definitively prove who is right? 


-----Original Message-----
From: Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Jan 21, 2014 1:47 pm
Subject: Re: A humble suggestion to the group


Pierz,


How about a $100 bet on who's right about spacetime expansion? You or Misner, 
Thorne, Wheeler and me?
:-)


Edgar




On Monday, January 20, 2014 6:42:59 PM UTC-5, Pierz wrote:
Haha.


Edgar, I have also modified my views through participation on this list. As it 
has for Liz, Bruno's "comp" has become borderline credible to me, though I am 
far from a "true believer". I've also been educated in a lot of philosophy of 
mind and had my grasp of key concepts in physics refined and sharpened. My 
fundamental position on AI has been altered significantly. The process of 
changing one's core beliefs is a slow, iterative one. Everyone's world view is 
a work in progress, or should be. But necessarily and rightly, we change by 
doing our best to defend our ideas against attack and critique. There's a 
certain irony to your remarks, because I have certainly seen not an iota of 
willingness on your part to change your views. It seems rather that you think 
it your business to bring enlightenment to everyone else here without truly 
opening your eyes and ears to competing or contradictory ideas. And it's rather 
disingenuous of you to talk about subjecting our ideas to a regime of tests 
when you completely ignored my $100 challenge to define any way to 
experimentally falsify your Universal Present Moment. That whole thread was the 
most exhausting, prolonged piece of head-against-the-wall-bashing I've 
encountered on this list, and believe me I've seen a few!

On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:25:58 AM UTC+11, Brent wrote:
          
    
On 1/20/2014 11:18 AM, Edgar L. Owen      wrote:
    
    
There are obviously a lot of very intelligent members      here who are well 
read in modern science. I think everyone would      agree with this.
    
    Except for a few that      are unfamiliar with relativity theory.
      
      Brent
      




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