Dear Edgar, I try very hard to not conflate mathematical/informal models of what we observe with the content of what we observe.
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote: > Stephen, > > Strictly speaking I could agree with that because only the current point > of that dimension actually exists. See my explanation in detail in my > previous post in this thread. > > However the trace of past time does qualify as a dimension, if you want to > define it as such, but that past trace does not exist. > > So if you want to define a dimension by a single moving point time is a > dimension (which is mathematically valid of course), otherwise it is not. > > See my explanation with details above... > > Edgar > > > > On Saturday, January 25, 2014 3:55:21 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: > >> Dear Edgar, >> >> Strictly speaking, no, time is not a dimension. We define sequences of >> associated events to be so in our mathematical representations. >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net> wrote: >> >> Liz, >> >> Yes, of course time is a dimension but that does NOT imply a block >> universe. >> >> That is because only the present moment of the time dimension actually >> exists. This simply means the past no longer exists, and the future has >> never yet existed. Reality exists only in the present moment. >> >> Thus if we take the universe as a 4-dimensional hypersphere with time the >> radial dimension, the real actual universe is only the present moment >> SURFACE of that hypersphere, and DOES NOT include the past interior. >> >> I know you won't accept this model but my point is simply to demonstrate >> that time being a dimension does NOT necessarily imply a block universe. >> >> AND you keep claiming that both Newton and Einstein believed in a block >> universe but you weren't able to produce any references supporting that. >> >> Do you actually have any, or is this just an assumption on your part? >> >> Edgar >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, January 25, 2014 3:18:05 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: >> >> On 26 January 2014 08:54, Stephen Paul King <step...@provensecure.com>wrote: >> >> <blockquote style="margin:0p >> >> ... > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/TBc_y2MZV5c/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Kindest Regards, Stephen Paul King Senior Researcher Mobile: (864) 567-3099 stephe...@provensecure.com http://www.provensecure.us/ "This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, notify sender immediately and delete this message immediately." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
