On 27 Jan 2014, at 03:25, Stephen Paul King wrote:

Dear LizR,


   George Spencer-Brown's Laws of Form are the place to start...

I am not sure. I can appreciate what he did, and what Kauffman did from it, but my experience is that to begin with Spencer Brown makes the study of logic more confusing. It is hard stuff disguised in false simplicity. That's my feeling. Beginners must grasp standard logic first, I think.

Bruno




On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:22 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
On 27 January 2014 14:55, Stephen Paul King <[email protected] > wrote: I just wish I could figure out how to get him (and you!) to acknowledge that there is a distinction that makes a difference between a thing and its representation. There are rules and principles of "distinctions that make a difference"... I am still learning of those.

I am very amenable to acknowledging that distinction. I am not my photograph, or my name, or my image in a mirror. The universe is not the contents of the equations of string theory ... unless it turns out that it is, of course, but if that is the case, then it's an exception. Which is probably why some people think Max Tegmark is a bit of a crackpot.


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